Saturday, February 23, 2008

Paradoxes in Medieval Rhetoric

In reading this introduction, I feel that there are many paradoxes in Medievalist thinking. What first strikes me is the loss of Greco-Roman philosophy and rhetoric because of its "salacious" (433) nature (was there something scandalous that I missed in my reading?). Jerome, for example, feels ashamed for studying Cicero because it does not align with Christian teachings; it is almost as if he views learning the Classics as a distraction from the "real" teachings of the Scriptures. This is where the paradox begins: although the Church has denounced the teachings of Greco-Roman scholars, many of the same ideals that those former scholars taught were revised and implemented in the teachings of the Church.

For example, Bizzell and Herzberg tell us that "what was known of classical rhetoric was generally known from extremely brief and schematic digests prepared by Church scholars or approved classical authors" (435). Then we find out that Martianus Capella produced a text that promoted the seven branches of liberal arts: grammar, dialectic, rhetoric, geometry, arithmetic, astronomy, and music (435). Is it odd, then, to note that these are primarily metiers studied by the ancient Greeks and Romans? (Seriously, if you had the power to pick and choose what you wanted people to learn from a particularly "scandalous" culture, would you modify and then reiterate what they had said? Hmm)

Furthermore, in the early stages of university learning, classes would be conducted in either lecture- or debate-format. The latter sounds a derivative of Plato, in which learning was achieved through conversation. We see this in his works through dialogue with another speaker. If a school (university) is being sponsored by the Church, why then might they have placed an important emphasis on Platonic learning by debating and attacking syllogisms? Doesn't this seem contradictory to the teachings they are striving to profess?

4 Comments:

At 10:40 PM, Blogger Natasha Luepke said...

And was there any mention of Peter Abelard? His "Sic et Non" was pretty darn important vis a vis medieval learning.

And is, perhaps, derivative of Plato and Aristotle. Though I wonder if it's more a matter of several people coming up with the same thing at different times. Hmmmm.

 
At 10:43 PM, Blogger Sarah Eileen said...

Are you saying that learning/teaching could be instinctual? Perhaps we are naturally inclined to teach in a certain way or wish to be taught in a certain way?

 
At 2:49 PM, Blogger Tyler Lemmon said...

Looking between the Platonic ideal and what the church stood for, there's a common thread between the two. Both held a singular form to encapsulate all knowledge and power in the universe. Plato had his source of ultimate Truth, the church looked towards God.

Given the writting tradition, it's not suprising to see that works that aligned with the Christian ideal were published more than those that supported the more sophistic-relativism. The church wanted orthodoxy and consistency in translation among members. The choice to not reproduce sophistic material was a further attempt to maintain orthodoxy. being a dominant social and political force allowed them to filter out the sophistic material to make way for ideas that were reflections of the church

 
At 10:04 PM, Blogger Vicki TB said...

Miss fatale's point about Abelard is a good one. I thought about him and "Sic et Non" when we were setting up the Believer/Doubter dialogues at the start of term. More rhetorical pedagogy for your bag of tricks.

 

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